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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.blogitude.com/2007/02/28/whiners-and-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-1232</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll take that bait.

The Patriot Act --- that thing that granted Bush much of the "authority" to do whatever he has allegedly done to "circumvent our civil liberties" (which has already been found to be false by a Senate investigatory committee) --- was passed all but UNANIMOUSLY.  Every Democrat except Russ Feingold (D-WI) voted for it --- and the only person who DIDN'T vote was Mary Landrieu (D-LA).

Regardless, things ARE getting better in Iraq.  The "Quagmire!" crowd refuse to see it.

And I agree --- he'll be gone soon.  

Bottom line ... If it took them THIS freaking long to even come up with charges, obviously there was either nothing to charge him with, or they had a vested interest in not touching the issue (they were guilty as well).  So, of course, they come up with this Joke document, which is nothing more than a proof of concept for how easy they've made the Impeachment process now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll take that bait.</p>
<p>The Patriot Act &#8212; that thing that granted Bush much of the &#8220;authority&#8221; to do whatever he has allegedly done to &#8220;circumvent our civil liberties&#8221; (which has already been found to be false by a Senate investigatory committee) &#8212; was passed all but UNANIMOUSLY.  Every Democrat except Russ Feingold (D-WI) voted for it &#8212; and the only person who DIDN&#8217;T vote was Mary Landrieu (D-LA).</p>
<p>Regardless, things ARE getting better in Iraq.  The &#8220;Quagmire!&#8221; crowd refuse to see it.</p>
<p>And I agree &#8212; he&#8217;ll be gone soon.  </p>
<p>Bottom line &#8230; If it took them THIS freaking long to even come up with charges, obviously there was either nothing to charge him with, or they had a vested interest in not touching the issue (they were guilty as well).  So, of course, they come up with this Joke document, which is nothing more than a proof of concept for how easy they&#8217;ve made the Impeachment process now.</p>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
		<link>http://www.blogitude.com/2007/02/28/whiners-and-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-1231</link>
		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real point is that Bush was given permission to wage war, and since that was against a phamtom opponent called "Terrorists", he took that permission and ran with it. He said it gave him the right to perform warrantless wiretaps. And there is a fear that he might use it for other things. He needs to be reined in and the terms of that permission need to be better defined. It ought to be made clear that he has to run everything by Congress, or at least a committee of our Representatives.

Iraq is like Vietnam in a few ways that are important. Number one, we have a conventional military engaged with an unconventional opponent. In that regard, it is much more than Vietnam. And, even more clearly, there will never be a military victory in Iraq, just as in Vietnam. Secondly, the goals are vapor. If you listen to the Presidential speeches about Vietnam, you could change the country to Iraq today and they would be the same. We will leave gradually as they country takes over its stability from us. Vietnam never did that. Iraq may not either. Unwinable. Just like Vietnam. A war to protect us from "Communists taking over that part of the World" like "Terrorists taking over that part of the World."

In a recent discussion with Dick Cheney, he said if we pull out of Iraq, the terrorists will then leave Irtaq and dpread out across the Middle East. There you have it! They are only there because we are! We leave and they leave! 

Either, the tumult in Iraq is because of the infidel is occupying the country and our leaving will abate the issue. Or, the problem is local and our leaving will take the brakes off a big truck rolling downhill. It is not under control now. The notion the Iraqi government wil lhandle it better or even equally well without us.. Hmmm.

The bottom line to me is, do we pull out now and stop the madness before it drags out and wastes out resources further, or do we pull out in a few more years amidst the chaos after many more are lost?

We've been in there a while. It's not getting better. We can give it another try, but we need to make a hard decision. Someone needs some balls to say "enough." There will likely never be a good time to leave Iraq, which makes now an even better time than years from now.

Impeaching Bush is not the answer. He'll be gone soon anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real point is that Bush was given permission to wage war, and since that was against a phamtom opponent called &#8220;Terrorists&#8221;, he took that permission and ran with it. He said it gave him the right to perform warrantless wiretaps. And there is a fear that he might use it for other things. He needs to be reined in and the terms of that permission need to be better defined. It ought to be made clear that he has to run everything by Congress, or at least a committee of our Representatives.</p>
<p>Iraq is like Vietnam in a few ways that are important. Number one, we have a conventional military engaged with an unconventional opponent. In that regard, it is much more than Vietnam. And, even more clearly, there will never be a military victory in Iraq, just as in Vietnam. Secondly, the goals are vapor. If you listen to the Presidential speeches about Vietnam, you could change the country to Iraq today and they would be the same. We will leave gradually as they country takes over its stability from us. Vietnam never did that. Iraq may not either. Unwinable. Just like Vietnam. A war to protect us from &#8220;Communists taking over that part of the World&#8221; like &#8220;Terrorists taking over that part of the World.&#8221;</p>
<p>In a recent discussion with Dick Cheney, he said if we pull out of Iraq, the terrorists will then leave Irtaq and dpread out across the Middle East. There you have it! They are only there because we are! We leave and they leave! </p>
<p>Either, the tumult in Iraq is because of the infidel is occupying the country and our leaving will abate the issue. Or, the problem is local and our leaving will take the brakes off a big truck rolling downhill. It is not under control now. The notion the Iraqi government wil lhandle it better or even equally well without us.. Hmmm.</p>
<p>The bottom line to me is, do we pull out now and stop the madness before it drags out and wastes out resources further, or do we pull out in a few more years amidst the chaos after many more are lost?</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been in there a while. It&#8217;s not getting better. We can give it another try, but we need to make a hard decision. Someone needs some balls to say &#8220;enough.&#8221; There will likely never be a good time to leave Iraq, which makes now an even better time than years from now.</p>
<p>Impeaching Bush is not the answer. He&#8217;ll be gone soon anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.blogitude.com/2007/02/28/whiners-and-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-1229</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm ... actually, dude ... he's right.  Sorry you fell for it.

There's a pretty good article on Wikipedia, but the "Nobody else is helping us" cry from Democrats --- after it was all going, mind you --- was a "numbers" slander at everyone else's small military contributions, whereby they could call it Unilateral when in fact it wasn't.  Remember the Coalition of the Willing?

&lt;em&gt;Those&lt;/em&gt; types of inflammatory statements, made by anti-war Moonbat Politicians, were extremely damaging to foreign relations --- moreso than the invasion itself.

Nice link to Badger Company ... That's reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm &#8230; actually, dude &#8230; he&#8217;s right.  Sorry you fell for it.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a pretty good article on Wikipedia, but the &#8220;Nobody else is helping us&#8221; cry from Democrats &#8212; after it was all going, mind you &#8212; was a &#8220;numbers&#8221; slander at everyone else&#8217;s small military contributions, whereby they could call it Unilateral when in fact it wasn&#8217;t.  Remember the Coalition of the Willing?</p>
<p><em>Those</em> types of inflammatory statements, made by anti-war Moonbat Politicians, were extremely damaging to foreign relations &#8212; moreso than the invasion itself.</p>
<p>Nice link to Badger Company &#8230; That&#8217;s reality.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"the majority of Western countries were in favor of invading Iraq."

What planet are you from? This is a false statement: most Western countries did NOT want the US to invade Iraq. Bush lied to persuade the public to support his war of aggression against a country which did not threaten us. Now, over 650,000 Iraquis are dead. There were no terrorists in Iraq before the war---especially "al qaeda" which Saddam considered a bitter enemy---but there are thousands of them now, willing to blow themselves up to rid their land of...American occupiers.

Bush &#38; Co have shredded our Constitution and will continue eroding our liberties if they are not stopped. They are indeed guilty of "high crimes and misdemeanors" and need to be impeached. Impeachment, by the way, is not a "threat to our Democracy"---it is the way provided by our Constitution to prevent presidents from assuming dictatorial powers. If ever there was a time to use impeachment, this is it.

We do agree on one thing: I sincerely hope this impeachment goes through!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the majority of Western countries were in favor of invading Iraq.&#8221;</p>
<p>What planet are you from? This is a false statement: most Western countries did NOT want the US to invade Iraq. Bush lied to persuade the public to support his war of aggression against a country which did not threaten us. Now, over 650,000 Iraquis are dead. There were no terrorists in Iraq before the war&#8212;especially &#8220;al qaeda&#8221; which Saddam considered a bitter enemy&#8212;but there are thousands of them now, willing to blow themselves up to rid their land of&#8230;American occupiers.</p>
<p>Bush &amp; Co have shredded our Constitution and will continue eroding our liberties if they are not stopped. They are indeed guilty of &#8220;high crimes and misdemeanors&#8221; and need to be impeached. Impeachment, by the way, is not a &#8220;threat to our Democracy&#8221;&#8212;it is the way provided by our Constitution to prevent presidents from assuming dictatorial powers. If ever there was a time to use impeachment, this is it.</p>
<p>We do agree on one thing: I sincerely hope this impeachment goes through!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.blogitude.com/2007/02/28/whiners-and-losers/comment-page-1/#comment-1225</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*jaw drops*

Wow.

Did Ted Kennedy piss in your Cheerios again?  Or was it Dan Rather this time?

Your Journey to the Dark Side is Now Complete!  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*jaw drops*</p>
<p>Wow.</p>
<p>Did Ted Kennedy piss in your Cheerios again?  Or was it Dan Rather this time?</p>
<p>Your Journey to the Dark Side is Now Complete!  <img src='http://www.blogitude.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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